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fullonadventureltd Newbie
Joined: 02 Jul 2017 Posts: 1 Location: scotland
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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2017 19:17 Post subject: 80 series handbreak. sorry another handbreak issue. |
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My 1990 UK spec 4.2 TD, 80 series weights just under 3 tons due to 35 inch wheels, 4 inch raise and various extras.
So following problems with my 80 series handbreak, i ordered the 5mm longer strutt from australia. it didnt solve the problem.
Problem being handbreak adjusted to work, caused breaks to over heat due to rubbing, and when adjusted so they are not rubbing, the hand break just doesnt work.
OK so i know that basically the handbreaks on 80s are not very good, and i have read lots of post on the subject.
So i decided to address every aspect of the problem. I'm in process of fitting new handbreak cable, new drum/dics with new shoes, and new calipers and new pads.
I used a fitting kit to replace the rusty pins, springs etc.
I spend time getting the rusted up joint where the lever coming from handbreak cable to the shoes pivots at the end of the spring which attaches to the shoe.
I've ensured everything moves smoothly and pivots as it should.
I've ensured the star turn adjuster spacer is fully greased up and turnbing freely, and currently wound completely to it's shortest length.
But i used Milner shoes and milner drum/disk replacement and the problem i have is that with the new shoes on and everything sitting as it should be, the drum/disk just will not fit over the shoes.
Has anyone else has that problem. Did you solve it with toyota shoes as i am concidering sending back the shoes, even though iv'e spent the time fitting them, and replacing with toyota ones. I checked the sizes of the milner disc/drum and it seems the same as my originals so the only thing i can think is that the new shoes are too thick?
Oh an i should mention i have tried putting the original stutt in again instead of the 5mm longer one, and the drum still will not fit on over the shoes. |
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boxa55 *
Joined: 17 Jul 2016 Posts: 39 Location: coventry
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 20:29 Post subject: |
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Have you backed off the adjuster ? |
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RADIOTWO ******
Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Posts: 816 Location: GLOSSOP
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 22:26 Post subject: Re: 80 series handbreak. sorry another handbreak issue. |
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fullonadventureltd wrote: |
My 1990 UK spec 4.2 TD, 80 series weights just under 3 tons due to 35 inch wheels, 4 inch raise and various extras.
So following problems with my 80 series handbreak, i ordered the 5mm longer strutt from australia. it didnt solve the problem.
Problem being handbreak adjusted to work, caused breaks to over heat due to rubbing, and when adjusted so they are not rubbing, the hand break just doesnt work.
OK so i know that basically the handbreaks on 80s are not very good, and i have read lots of post on the subject.
So i decided to address every aspect of the problem. I'm in process of fitting new handbreak cable, new drum/dics with new shoes, and new calipers and new pads.
I used a fitting kit to replace the rusty pins, springs etc.
I spend time getting the rusted up joint where the lever coming from handbreak cable to the shoes pivots at the end of the spring which attaches to the shoe.
I've ensured everything moves smoothly and pivots as it should.
I've ensured the star turn adjuster spacer is fully greased up and turnbing freely, and currently wound completely to it's shortest length.
But i used Milner shoes and milner drum/disk replacement and the problem i have is that with the new shoes on and everything sitting as it should be, the drum/disk just will not fit over the shoes.
Has anyone else has that problem. Did you solve it with toyota shoes as i am concidering sending back the shoes, even though iv'e spent the time fitting them, and replacing with toyota ones. I checked the sizes of the milner disc/drum and it seems the same as my originals so the only thing i can think is that the new shoes are too thick?
Oh an i should mention i have tried putting the original stutt in again instead of the 5mm longer one, and the drum still will not fit on over the shoes. |
I don't know if you have tried or even heard of these :
https://the-overlander.myshopify.com/collections/4x4-parts/products/boss-landcruiser-handbrake-upgrade _________________ 2004 Amazon 100 series
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Towpack *******
Joined: 10 May 2005 Posts: 1315 Location: Sheffield
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Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:35 Post subject: Re: 80 series handbreak. sorry another handbreak issue. |
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fullonadventureltd wrote: |
Has anyone else has that problem. Did you solve it with toyota shoes as i am concidering sending back the shoes, even though iv'e spent the time fitting them, and replacing with toyota ones. I checked the sizes of the milner disc/drum and it seems the same as my originals so the only thing i can think is that the new shoes are too thick?
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Yes. I had EXACTLY this issue with the shoes from Milner. I would have returned them, the only problem being I didn't come to fit them for several months and when I did so I couldn't find the receipt.
I ended up using an abrasive belt from a belt sander, wetted to eliminate dust, to reduce the shoes thickness until they fitted. Not an ideal or necessarily recommended solution I agree but it was ages ago and it seems to have worked along with some new dog bones. I've never seen any new OEM Toyota shoes so can't comment on how they compare size wise. I think it's also important you follow the bedding in procedure from the FSM _________________ Phil
1998 HDJ80 Amazon VX 4.2TD
2004 Yamaha R1 (Sold)
2011 Ducati 1198SP (Sold)
2012 kawasaki ZZr1400
2002 Honda XR650R (BRP)- STOLEN GRRRRR!!!
2010 Husaberg FE570....YIPPEEEEE!!!!
2003 GT XCR3000
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andy Moderator
Joined: 16 Dec 2003 Posts: 2260 Location: Polegate, Sussex, England.
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Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:05 Post subject: |
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i ordered the 5mm longer strutt from australia. it didnt solve the problem. |
_________________ It's Not a Bl**dy Jeep it's a Landcruiser
150 series Invincible X
100 Series VX Limited
Mercedes Sprinter 311 Luton
1993 VX80 4.2td SOLD
1996 Hilux Surf SSR-G Intercooler Sold
1994 Hilux Surf SSR-V Sold |
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jon.doel Newbie
Joined: 21 Sep 2017 Posts: 6 Location: London
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 19:13 Post subject: Sorry to be picky but it's actually a handbrake |
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Also
It's Not a Bl**dy Jeep it's a Landcruiser. It's neither - it's a Land Cruiser! |
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andy Moderator
Joined: 16 Dec 2003 Posts: 2260 Location: Polegate, Sussex, England.
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Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 17:48 Post subject: Re: Sorry to be picky but it's actually a handbrake |
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jon.doel wrote: |
Also
It's Not a Bl**dy Jeep it's a Landcruiser. It's neither - it's a Land Cruiser! |
You have a problem with that ? _________________ It's Not a Bl**dy Jeep it's a Landcruiser
150 series Invincible X
100 Series VX Limited
Mercedes Sprinter 311 Luton
1993 VX80 4.2td SOLD
1996 Hilux Surf SSR-G Intercooler Sold
1994 Hilux Surf SSR-V Sold |
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jon.doel Newbie
Joined: 21 Sep 2017 Posts: 6 Location: London
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Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 20:48 Post subject: Landcruiser or Land Cruiser |
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In some ways yes. It is the name of these things. Landrovers are not Land Rovers, a Hiace is not a Hi Ace, a Proace is not a Pro Ace and a Land Cruiser is not a Landcruiser. Your name is not An Dy it's Andy I can call you An Dy - it sounds the same but it's not quite right is it. In fact the forum itself is incorrectly spelled (or spelt).
Check my facts anywhere you like.
Jo N sorry Jon |
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andy Moderator
Joined: 16 Dec 2003 Posts: 2260 Location: Polegate, Sussex, England.
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Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2017 14:38 Post subject: |
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If you can't contribute anything worth while to the forum, then don't bother coming back. _________________ It's Not a Bl**dy Jeep it's a Landcruiser
150 series Invincible X
100 Series VX Limited
Mercedes Sprinter 311 Luton
1993 VX80 4.2td SOLD
1996 Hilux Surf SSR-G Intercooler Sold
1994 Hilux Surf SSR-V Sold |
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