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4 Speed or 5 Speed Auto?

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 0:56    Post subject: 4 Speed or 5 Speed Auto? Reply with quote

How do I know if my 2004 LC4 has a 4 or 5 speed Auto?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:18    Post subject: Reply with quote

..........Or are they all 5 speed and really late ones 6 speed
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 13:29    Post subject: Reply with quote

You will have D 4 3 2 L if it is 5 speed
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 21:35    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenn wrote:
You will have D 4 3 2 L if it is 5 speed

......And if its 4 speed?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:03    Post subject: Reply with quote

MAZI wrote:
Glenn wrote:
You will have D 4 3 2 L if it is 5 speed

......And if its 4 speed?

Have you never thought to count them as you drive ?
start by putting it in D and set off and count how many times it changes till you get to about 50mph
and finally what difference does the amount make, 1/10 gears does not matter its the final
drive that is important !
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 23, 2017 12:39    Post subject: Reply with quote

RADIOTWO wrote:
MAZI wrote:
Glenn wrote:
You will have D 4 3 2 L if it is 5 speed

......And if its 4 speed?

Have you never thought to count them as you drive ?
start by putting it in D and set off and count how many times it changes till you get to about 50mph
and finally what difference does the amount make, 1/10 gears does not matter its the final
drive that is important !


That is an excellent idea.................
It would be easier if someone had the answer.
I simply want to know when they changed from 4 to 5 speed and then 6 speed for the late cars?
I have confirmed that mine is 5 speed now.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 23, 2017 15:20    Post subject: Reply with quote

No 120 s are 6 speed auto, only the very latest 150 models are
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 24, 2017 5:14    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Glenn. Is their a timeline of updates or facelifts anywhere on this forum. Did the very early cars have a 4 speed?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 24, 2017 11:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

Changed to 5 speed auto in 2004. The earlier ones are the same 4 speed auto that was in the 90, complete with fluid dipstick.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:40    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmmm got me thinking now my 120 2007 has got

P
R
N
D4
3
L2

so whats this then ?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 13:41    Post subject: Reply with quote

It will be the 5 speed, confirmation being no transmission dipstick under the bonnet.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 13:43    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks Smile

just will have to readup best way to use them all now  Smile will be my first autobox
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 14:17    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're on the road and not towing it'll look after itself. If you're towing on anything other than a flat road you might want to put it in 4 to stop the box changing up and down too much and getting hot. If you want to use engine breaking you can set a lower gear. Off-road on steep descents I stick it in L, and also the low ratio box so I can crawl down.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 14:25    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks mate but mis umderstood a bit....the first drive gear three is is D4..so in effect it will be in D4 on that flat non towing example....so not sure about the "stop it chaning up and down" bit..

engoine breaking..would this be D3 ?

thanks again
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 17:57    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the 5 speed, generally in D is does everything you ask of it.

On some long descents i slip it across to 4, this provides a small amount of engine braking, don't think on the road i've ever bothered using 3 for engine braking, i also sometimes leave it in 4 around town, but unless you tow heavy weights there is no real reason to do anything other than leave it in D.

It's a lovely box, silky smooth changes, but if you use Cruise Control you will find it's quite eager like most torque converter autos to drop a gear when it sees a hill in order to maintain cruise speed, when by gentle throttle increase it can maintain speed on some surprising hills and stay in lock up top.
The auto Hilux with the 4 speed box i had before was exactly the same regarding Cruise, would change down too soon to maintain speed.
The only minor gripe i have with the box is how it behaves in Cruise, but it's quite normal for every auto i've driven except for those with full manual function, which these Toyota boxes do not have.
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