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Christopher Mendoza Newbie
Joined: 05 Jul 2009 Posts: 5 Location: Dover
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 15:35 Post subject: Shipping a car through Cape Town |
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Chaps
I'm prepping a truck (1993 80 VX Import) to drive around south and east Africa. I intend to ship in a container to Cape Town. As the car will be imported on a Carnet I intend to fly out and meet the ship in Cape Town, then clear the car through customs myself.
On top of the cost of getting the car to Cape Town I have been told by UK agents that it could cost over £1500 in port charges, handling, terminal charges and customs examination in Cape Town. That will double the cost of shipping. Does anyone have experience of shipping in a container through a South African port and can offer advice.
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uk_vette Lifetime member
Joined: 29 Oct 2007 Posts: 1422 Location: Warrington, Cheshire
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 15:53 Post subject: |
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Can you do Ro Ro to Port Elizabeth ? cheaper and easier.
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Christopher Mendoza Newbie
Joined: 05 Jul 2009 Posts: 5 Location: Dover
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 8:41 Post subject: |
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Port Elizabeth is not a problem for me but I have heard horror stories about the security of cars on RoRo. My car will have spares and tools onboard as well as a roof rack and roof tent.
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ChrisC **
Joined: 18 Nov 2006 Posts: 75 Location: West Malling, Kent
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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 20:45 Post subject: Shipping options |
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What about Walvis Bay, Namibia - Foleys have used that regularly to ship to Southern Africa
www.foleysv.com
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Christopher Mendoza Newbie
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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 21:11 Post subject: |
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Hi Chris
The problem with Walvis Bay is that the quotes I've had are about £500-00 more expensive than Cape Town. It is also more expensive to get to! When I asked the agents, they thought it was because there was less demand.
I have an open mind though and have no problem going there.
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Desperatezulu Lifetime member
Joined: 29 Mar 2008 Posts: 483 Location: Surrey
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 14:22 Post subject: |
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Hello Christopher,
Very sorry to read this on LCCSA about your LC and your trip....
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The burned out car in Etosha happened on 18 December. It was my cruiser, one week into a 12 month journey through Africa from Cape Town to London. I spent months prepping the car in UK and shipped it to Cape Town.
The fire started under the bonnet, probably electrical, but as the bonnet refused to release, my extinguishers couldn't get at the source of the fire. From the initial smoke and flame the fire started in or close to the offside drive battery. I had two red tops, one each side of the engine and a further yellow top next to the nearside drive battery.
Despite everything I tried, eventually the fire spread and the result is there to see. The car was fully loaded for overlanding with an extra long range fuel tank.
Everything, except some documents and a few personal effects were lost and now I and the park are waiting for the insurance company to arrange removal of the wreck.
I have to say that everyone in Namibia was brilliant, very helpful, from the Park Officials, to the Police, who had to come from Ouijo and Customs Officers in Windhoek who sorted out my carnet before I came back to UK. I still haven't come to terms with the loss as the cruiser was to be my home for a year so you can imagine the equipment and belongings that were lost.
A salutary lesson, in what can go wrong. The Park Rangers told me they get about 8 -10 vehicle wrecks a month but mostly they are roll overs from excess speed. Mine was unusual, thank goodness.
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All the best, _________________ Andrew
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Crispin *****
Joined: 09 Jun 2009 Posts: 685 Location: Welham Green, Hertfordshire, England
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 15:20 Post subject: |
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Sorry to hear - that really sucks! _________________ Cheers,
Crispin
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garystockton Lifetime member
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 15:37 Post subject: |
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Seriously not lekker - my sympathies, Christopher!
_________________ I'll be more enthusiastic about encouraging thinking outside the box when there's evidence of any thinking going on inside it.
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Christopher Mendoza Newbie
Joined: 05 Jul 2009 Posts: 5 Location: Dover
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 16:53 Post subject: Aborted trip |
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Thanks for the thoughts guys. It was all going so well.........
Now I have to sort out all the insurance implications and once done I will report back for those planning a similar trip. Then I have to decide whether to repeat the experience if I have the time and money left.
I might post a report of my trip as far as it went once I get around to finishing it.
Don't let my experience put anyone off, It was going great until the fire. I had some additional driving lights fitted in Cape Town and they were wired into the battery closest to the seat of the fire. I will always be wondering.....
By the way, going back to the original subject, I ended up paying about £1400 for loading the container at Felixstowe, including the freight to Cape Town. It then cost approximately £1000 to get the container off the ship and the car out of the container, cleared and out of the docks in Cape Town.
Drive safe
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aroscow *******
Joined: 03 Dec 2008 Posts: 1047 Location: Wondering in the woods somewhere...
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 16:55 Post subject: |
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Ouch, at least you were OK. _________________ HDJ80, BFG AT's, grooved discs, OME 850/860's |
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Desperatezulu Lifetime member
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 17:03 Post subject: |
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What was the basis for the £1000 charges in Cape Town to get your car released? Local taxes? Presumably the freight company had an obligation to get the container off the ship without holding you to ransom!
Cheers, _________________ Andrew
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wildsmith Lifetime member
Joined: 20 Oct 2006 Posts: 1580 Location: Stourbridge, West Mids, UK
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 17:06 Post subject: |
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Wow, that's very sad You said the bonnet wouldn't release and I know that senario probably doesn't happen very often but makes me wonder if it isn't worth fitting pins and removing the normal catch seeing that. _________________ Jon m0zxj
01 UZJ100 lifted (AHC & 40mm BL), ARB locked f&r, cryo'd 4.88's, TJM front bumper, 12k goldfish, sliders, rack, snorkel, 35's, storage, aux power etc.
93 HDJ80 sold
94 HDJ80 RIP |
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aroscow *******
Joined: 03 Dec 2008 Posts: 1047 Location: Wondering in the woods somewhere...
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 17:16 Post subject: |
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It is sad. I reckon pins would make more sense, how would you make them intruder proof? _________________ HDJ80, BFG AT's, grooved discs, OME 850/860's |
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Gavlad Lifetime member
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 17:24 Post subject: |
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That is sad sight - I hope your insurers are a decent lot & get you something like sorted... And quickly too... _________________ Gav
'98 90 - family truck, 275x75 BFG AT's, homebrew aloominium roofrack
'94 HDJ80 - homebrew rear bumper fitted (but not quite ready to recover off!!!), +4 IronMan & 35 MTs ON!!! - front bumper still in the offing... |
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wildsmith Lifetime member
Joined: 20 Oct 2006 Posts: 1580 Location: Stourbridge, West Mids, UK
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 17:41 Post subject: |
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aroscow wrote: |
It is sad. I reckon pins would make more sense, how would you make them intruder proof? |
Dunno, have an extra thick pin in the middle with a hole in the end big enough to put a padlock through when you're leaving it parked up? I bet most people would assume the pins were for show and not expect to open the bonnet anyway? _________________ Jon m0zxj
01 UZJ100 lifted (AHC & 40mm BL), ARB locked f&r, cryo'd 4.88's, TJM front bumper, 12k goldfish, sliders, rack, snorkel, 35's, storage, aux power etc.
93 HDJ80 sold
94 HDJ80 RIP |
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