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Nuclear Chicken Lifetime member
Joined: 26 Feb 2009 Posts: 561 Location: Nordy Land
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Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 21:54 Post subject: New 150 series |
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Got my brochure today and having a flick I was mentally trying to compare my LC5 with the new one. It's true there are lots more toys as standard and the general quality seems to have been improved 'premiumwise'. LC3 £29k, LC4 £40k and LC5 £44k.
Main things that struck me were:
1 Looks like most peole will be afraid to take it off road. No visible body protection at all. Current LC120 at least has removable door and wheel arch panels that can be replaced if they take a bash. Rubbing strips are an optional extra. WTF?
2 LC4 and 5 now have HID headlights as standard. About time too.
3 No manual t'box lever. Looks like H and L are selected from a rotary switch on the dash.
4 Looks like 5 sp auto is standard with no manual
5 centre diff is locakable with LSD
6 LC5 has rear locker too
7 rearmost seats fold into the floor
8 same naff engine in terms of refinement and output.
9 Only the LC5 has the godawful wood trimmings and steering wheel.
10 fewer body colours available and 2 leather interior colours remain the same. All but 1 metallic which is optional extra.
11 power heated rear seats in LC4 & 5
12 18" wheels on LC4 and 5. Off road ? No chance.
13 wading depth, attack angles etc etc all pretty much the same.
If I had £44k to spend on a new motor would I buy one? You know, I probably would. The engine refinement output/ emissions compared to VW/ Audi/ Merc/ BMW 6 cylinder are still a country mile behind but the reliability will win longterm. And I heard or read a rumour that a V6 diesel will be available. That can only be good. I still hate the fact that it has so obviously been targeted at the X5/ Q7/ Touareg brigade and has lost a lot of the inherent ruggedness as a result.
Discuss. _________________ '04 KDJ120R LC5. Died 17th Dec 2010. RIP. |
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Crispin *****
Joined: 09 Jun 2009 Posts: 685 Location: Welham Green, Hertfordshire, England
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Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 23:08 Post subject: Re: New 150 series |
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Nuclear Chicken wrote: |
Looks like most peole will be afraid to take it off road. |
Yup - Don't think I would. Certainly not any narrow lanes.
Nuclear Chicken wrote: |
Looks like 5 sp auto is standard with no manual |
A friend who ordered on in South Africa wanted a manual. No such luck.
Nuclear Chicken wrote: |
Only the LC5 has the godawful wood trimmings and steering wheel. |
Nuclear Chicken wrote: |
12 18" wheels on LC4 and 5. Off road ? No chance. |
I wonder if it will have the same issue then as the 120 has with 16 inch wheels. They won't fit over the callipers. Maybe get some LR low profiles?
Like you, if I had a spare 44k, I would buy it.
Not much of a price difference between the 4/5. Thought there would be a bit more. _________________ Cheers,
Crispin
Have Snorkel, Will Swim |
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uk_vette Lifetime member
Joined: 29 Oct 2007 Posts: 1422 Location: Warrington, Cheshire
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Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 6:00 Post subject: |
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Well, for that sort of money, I might be tempted for the new 200 series.
V8 diesel.
'vette |
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Desperatezulu Lifetime member
Joined: 29 Mar 2008 Posts: 483 Location: Surrey
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Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 9:44 Post subject: |
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LC3 @ £29k vs LC5 @£44k So an extra £15k for a bunch of trim and non-essential electrics plus a rear locker? An LC3 with a rear ARB locker fitted will be £30k and ready to roll off-road!
The 150 sounds like it's VERY focused on the Chelsea tractor market - it better have bullet-proof reliability because it's now competing in a class where its competitors are much more sophisticated in terms of on-road performance.... The Q7 or even a Disco4 3l TDI looks quite appealing in comparison.... under £40k with more powerful, smoother engines with equivalent fuel economy [runs & hides]
Cheers, _________________ Andrew
'98 LC80 4.2TD VX 24v |
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Nuclear Chicken Lifetime member
Joined: 26 Feb 2009 Posts: 561 Location: Nordy Land
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Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:34 Post subject: |
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uk_vette wrote: |
Well, for that sort of money, I might be tempted for the new 200 series.
V8 diesel.
'vette |
True, for £44k I'd probably pick a good used 200 too.
Take your point 'zulu but I like my toys and I need the car to work well for the family too! There's a lot of extra stuff for that £15k. Expensive motor nonetheless. _________________ '04 KDJ120R LC5. Died 17th Dec 2010. RIP. |
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garystockton Lifetime member
Joined: 17 Apr 2005 Posts: 1190 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
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Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 13:35 Post subject: |
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I'd rather get a good 2nd hand 200, or get two decent 100 series - do one up for serious lanes, ala Wildsmith, inc., and do one up seriously for overlanding And with the change get a Yaris for round town ... _________________ I'll be more enthusiastic about encouraging thinking outside the box when there's evidence of any thinking going on inside it.
- Terry Pratchett |
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garystockton Lifetime member
Joined: 17 Apr 2005 Posts: 1190 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
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Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 13:43 Post subject: |
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Actually, I'd get a good 80 for laning and a good 100 for overlanding, and the Yaris for town _________________ I'll be more enthusiastic about encouraging thinking outside the box when there's evidence of any thinking going on inside it.
- Terry Pratchett |
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ignat ***
Joined: 29 Nov 2008 Posts: 145 Location: Sutton, Surrey
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Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 15:45 Post subject: |
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If I had that kind of money to burn I would get a new 76 Series. Sure, nowhere near as comfortable, but what a beauty
Still have loadsa money left over to kit it out nicely...
Can dream cant we
_________________ '97 Colorado 3.0 TD LWB
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TonyS ***
Joined: 25 Feb 2007 Posts: 204 Location: Worcester
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Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 13:31 Post subject: |
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Test drove one the other weekend, had it for 3 days. Now its right upto date, it was the LC4, loads of gear, keyless start, reversing camera,loads of info, great economy, easily 35mpg on a run, high 20s around the farm. Same engine, but big difference, performance seems much improved and quieter.
Ordered one back before it was launched, get it 6th jan all being well,so be here for next cruiser weekend.
Sold our 120 3 months ago, to get a better deal, and borrowed a 90 from a friend of mine. They really are a dreadful thing to drive, why do folk by landies!! Its for my wife really, so not needed to drive it much, stick to my lux!!
Cheers,Tony. |
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Nuclear Chicken Lifetime member
Joined: 26 Feb 2009 Posts: 561 Location: Nordy Land
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Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 14:10 Post subject: |
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Nice, something to look forward to! _________________ '04 KDJ120R LC5. Died 17th Dec 2010. RIP. |
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wildsmith Lifetime member
Joined: 20 Oct 2006 Posts: 1580 Location: Stourbridge, West Mids, UK
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Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 17:10 Post subject: |
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The 150 should be real luxury after a LR 90 _________________ Jon m0zxj
01 UZJ100 lifted (AHC & 40mm BL), ARB locked f&r, cryo'd 4.88's, TJM front bumper, 12k goldfish, sliders, rack, snorkel, 35's, storage, aux power etc.
93 HDJ80 sold
94 HDJ80 RIP |
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garystockton Lifetime member
Joined: 17 Apr 2005 Posts: 1190 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
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Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 17:18 Post subject: |
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I would have thought a wheelbarrow would be real luxury after a landrover _________________ I'll be more enthusiastic about encouraging thinking outside the box when there's evidence of any thinking going on inside it.
- Terry Pratchett |
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TonyS ***
Joined: 25 Feb 2007 Posts: 204 Location: Worcester
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Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 18:48 Post subject: |
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Too right ,Jon. The 90 is a 2004 model, but it really is far worse than i could've emagined.I cant even fit in the drivers seat properly,or close the door,its so close to your arm. And also the steering, dreadful lock and also ...... too many things to mention. It is however kind of my friend to lend it to us, |
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wildsmith Lifetime member
Joined: 20 Oct 2006 Posts: 1580 Location: Stourbridge, West Mids, UK
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Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 21:25 Post subject: |
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Well if the 6th doesn't work out I know where there's an 80 not getting much use at the moment _________________ Jon m0zxj
01 UZJ100 lifted (AHC & 40mm BL), ARB locked f&r, cryo'd 4.88's, TJM front bumper, 12k goldfish, sliders, rack, snorkel, 35's, storage, aux power etc.
93 HDJ80 sold
94 HDJ80 RIP |
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tim8ska *
Joined: 16 Dec 2009 Posts: 12 Location: Almaty - Kazakhstan, London
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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 17:08 Post subject: |
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New 150 spotted in my garage (parking)
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