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Spanners ***
Joined: 20 Jan 2006 Posts: 150 Location: Stafford
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Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:43 Post subject: Headlight Problem |
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Hi to all
As I am not so good with electrics I wondered if you could help.
Problem with headlights.
Both headlights light up but when main beam is selected from column stork there is no main beam and both headlights go out. Same if stork is moved other way i.e. no main beam flash and both headlights go out. The blue main beam light on dash does not illuminate either.
Guess its going to be either the Headlight Control or more likely the Dimmer relay not sure which?
Are these relays only avalable from main dealer?
Any ideas would be appreciated thanks.
Martin _________________ Landcruiser HDJ80 Auto 1993 |
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leon *****
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Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 15:12 Post subject: |
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when main beem is on normal lights go out .but you wouldnt know coz main beem would be on normaly
asuming you have checked the fuse ? _________________ Should I have these bit's left over ?
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Spanners ***
Joined: 20 Jan 2006 Posts: 150 Location: Stafford
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Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 18:44 Post subject: |
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The headlights come on, but when I select high beam the headlights go out i.e. other than side lights there are no headlights unlit I deselect high beam when the headlights (low beam) come on again..
Cheers
Martin _________________ Landcruiser HDJ80 Auto 1993 |
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joinerman *******
Joined: 11 Sep 2005 Posts: 2200 Location: Here & there
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Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 19:18 Post subject: |
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There's a relay in the box in the piccie which has probably gone, quite common.
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leon *****
Joined: 20 Apr 2009 Posts: 593 Location: Newcastle UK
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Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 20:21 Post subject: |
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Spanners wrote: |
The headlights come on, but when I select high beam the headlights go out i.e. other than side lights there are no headlights unlit I deselect high beam when the headlights (low beam) come on again..
Cheers
Martin |
i,v a 100 ...but the main beam and hightbeam or 2 differnt bulbs ..when one's on the other one,s are allways off there never on both together
so your problem is your hightbeam isnt working not that your main beam gose out if that makes sence _________________ Should I have these bit's left over ?
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Pugwash ****
Joined: 28 Sep 2007 Posts: 257 Location: Ascot, Surrey,
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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:45 Post subject: |
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as Joinerman says, its a relayt problem- order one from the local dealer! |
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Spanners ***
Joined: 20 Jan 2006 Posts: 150 Location: Stafford
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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 19:19 Post subject: |
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As always thanks for your help.
Took the Headlight Dimmer Relay apart applied 12v - contact poor. Took off the small spring, cleaned up (and slightly bent forward) the contacts and switch restored. Saved £40.
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Towpack *******
Joined: 10 May 2005 Posts: 1315 Location: Sheffield
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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 22:13 Post subject: |
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Spanners wrote: |
As always thanks for your help.
Took the Headlight Dimmer Relay apart applied 12v - contact poor. Took off the small spring, cleaned up (and slightly bent forward) the contacts and switch restored. Saved £40.
Cheers
Martin |
Don't you just love fixes like this. I little bit of time, effort and ingenuity and you save yourself a packet! I guess on a new vehicle the relay might well be one of those sealed unit jobbies that you can't get into. Yet another benefit of running an older car. _________________ Phil
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Spanners ***
Joined: 20 Jan 2006 Posts: 150 Location: Stafford
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 0:02 Post subject: |
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Great collective advice on here always very worthwhile.
I was also amazed how well made the internals of the relay were. After all it has covered 16 years and 173000 miles. After the clean up I am guessing it would be good for the same again.
Just wondering what you would recommend for an alternative set of brighter headlight bulbs than standard withouit the need for a wiring upgrade.l
Thanks to all
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Brett ****
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:51 Post subject: |
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The Halfords +80% bulbs made a big difference to mine. _________________ Brett
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dwels *
Joined: 11 Feb 2009 Posts: 18 Location: Nr Henley-On-Thames
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:38 Post subject: |
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I used these. Made a huge difference.
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Nuclear Chicken Lifetime member
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:42 Post subject: |
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Philips, Osram and Bosch make the best stuff, period, with the former two probably the best. Nothing in it. Expect to pay about £20/pair. Or do a HID upgrade.
I've used what Dwels suggests above. Big improvement without breaking the bank. _________________ '04 KDJ120R LC5. Died 17th Dec 2010. RIP. |
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Ecky Thump Lifetime member
Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 739 Location: Crawley, West Sussex
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 14:15 Post subject: |
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Or if you want a huge difference but remain miserly, try these;
http://cgi.e bay.co.uk/ws/e bay.dll?ViewItem&item=130264033837
I have been using these for four years now and two have blown in that time. But at that price, who cares.
Allways amazed at how quick they are delivered. I also got the ones for Tommo's headlights and spotlights from the same people. _________________ Les
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Spanners ***
Joined: 20 Jan 2006 Posts: 150 Location: Stafford
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 18:56 Post subject: |
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Thanks for the replys.
I notice the e bay ones mentioned above by Les are HID 100w - presumably my 1993 standard wiring will cope with the much higher output?
Any legal restrictions - they say blue?
Thanks
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Ecky Thump Lifetime member
Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 739 Location: Crawley, West Sussex
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 19:13 Post subject: |
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When I used them on my Disco I had a burn out of the wiring and had to uprate it.
With the 80 I have never had any problems.
Yes they are illegal but I have never been pulled for them and I drive into police stations
and road policing units every working day.
So long as the headlight aim is correct I doubt there will ever be an issue.
Even at 100w they are not as bright as the Nissan Tommo used to have with the HID lights. _________________ Les
TLOCUKSB Member No.80
1998 VX Ltd Auto 4.2TD 24 valve beast!! OME 50mm lift & Safari Snorkel
1997 auto petrol 80 (for Er'in'doors)
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