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Landcrusher Lifetime member
Joined: 21 Oct 2005 Posts: 2689 Location: Chesterfield, East Midlands
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 17:05 Post subject: Axle twister 1 |
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Hope I'm not abusing my privilledges here - there are quite a few pics, but I have reduced them in size and quality to hopefully make them less of a strain on your PC's.
I went out again and took these. This is with the new anti roll bar link set up. 30 mins work and £25. I don't have before and after, but I'm sure that when I tried this before I just lifted the rear leg right off the ground.
From behind
It's a steep little bank. I had difficulty getting out of the truck
Wheels were still firmly planted and there was no rocking - they type you get when a wheel is trying to lift
Going back the other way, trying to find a way to just drop the front wheel and none of the others is not easy
Just trying to convey how much lean there was on the edge of the road
Plenty left I reckon too. See the next post for some interesting angles
My Missus would freak if she was inside. Well I don't have that good a history of keeping it on all four I suppose
_________________ HDJ 80 but still a 90 owner at heart (yeah right!) |
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Joined: 21 Oct 2005 Posts: 2689 Location: Chesterfield, East Midlands
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 17:15 Post subject: Axle twister 2 |
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OK. So when I got back, I thought about an old test that I had seen someone do with a Landrover. I tried it myself and struggled a little. So, I though I'd try it again with the new set up
Put two car ramps down on opposite corners and drive up them
You can see that the car is not that far off level even with this test
The rear link is not nearly as stretched as it used to be
You can see the opposite link through the chassis. It's well clear
Here's the front two links. You can see that one is in compression and the other in tension. Having a soft top bushing means that you squeeze all the movement out of it
Even at this angle, I can assure you that the front wheel was still very firmly on the ground. I could not move it by kicking or trying to turn it side to side
Here's a close up of the new link and the extra cup washers
in there _________________ HDJ 80 but still a 90 owner at heart (yeah right!) |
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Bosvark ***
Joined: 26 Feb 2008 Posts: 169 Location: High Peak
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 18:19 Post subject: |
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That look like a good amount of articulation there. wheels on the ground=more grip.
A little mod worth doing for just £25
The missus will feel alot more safe now, she just have to get use to the angle..... |
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Bosvark ***
Joined: 26 Feb 2008 Posts: 169 Location: High Peak
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 18:25 Post subject: |
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Little Blue start to look like an off- roader with BIG attetude!
I would like to try this test as well, just need to get some ramps..
Are you going to fit some roof ligths? |
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Joined: 21 Oct 2005 Posts: 2689 Location: Chesterfield, East Midlands
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 18:36 Post subject: |
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Hi Bos. Well it would have been this weekend. But my local lorry dealer didn't have a full set. I may go for the Britax L27. They are really well made and a reasonable price. I cannot afford PIAA etc at £100 per light! I don't really want RING at £19.99 per pair. I could put some Lucas DX 80s on there as the Guy did have some of those. But if I broke one, there won't be any spare since they haven't made these for years. My dealer is trapped somewhere in the 1950's by the way. Brown warehouse coats and a lot of sucking through the teeth. They still see Phillips head screws as the Devil's work. Anyway. I have to ring them on Monday to see if they can get stock this side of the next millennium.
Just pondering wiring options. Will have wired as two pairs. So I could have two different pairs of lights actually. But 4 the same would look snazzy.
Yes. Little Blue is looking quite purposeful. You should see the one that I was with in Shropshire the other week. All stickered up with an ARB bumper. Really looked the dog's.
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Joined: 21 Oct 2005 Posts: 2689 Location: Chesterfield, East Midlands
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 23:46 Post subject: |
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Sorry Mods. In my view this was a very specific 90 series suspension modification - for other 90 users to follow, not pictures of 'my ride'. Stuck on this bit, not likely to attract much viewing IMHO. The problem with forums getting a slot for absolutely everything is that there is very little action on each thread and people lose interest. It's pretty quiet as it is.
Just my view, don't think it should have been moved. I certainly don't look in this section for vehicle mods.
LC _________________ HDJ 80 but still a 90 owner at heart (yeah right!) |
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wildsmith Lifetime member
Joined: 20 Oct 2006 Posts: 1580 Location: Stourbridge, West Mids, UK
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 23:37 Post subject: |
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Looks like you just fell off the road on the way back from the pub and thought you'd make us think it was on purpose _________________ Jon m0zxj
01 UZJ100 lifted (AHC & 40mm BL), ARB locked f&r, cryo'd 4.88's, TJM front bumper, 12k goldfish, sliders, rack, snorkel, 35's, storage, aux power etc.
93 HDJ80 sold
94 HDJ80 RIP |
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Joined: 21 Oct 2005 Posts: 2689 Location: Chesterfield, East Midlands
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 0:15 Post subject: |
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Trust me there's no pub up there. Just the Scoobyclinic. We are plagued by flippin' Scoobies blasting up and down to this place. It's fairly well known in the world of the pointless world of having a rally car to go to the shops in. Mind you, if you'd seen me trying to get in and out to take the photos you would think that I had been drinking. Next time I'll take a beer crate to stand on.
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Joined: 18 Jul 2007 Posts: 1016 Location: Norfolk
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 17:52 Post subject: |
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I came across this web page:-
http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTricks/SwayBar.shtml
and thought it might be of interest.
The standard setup of the two anti-roll bars is a compromise to reduce the body roll on cornering while still allowing good wheel movement when off-road and trying to cope with very rough surfaces. The guy on the web site has used the quick release links to disconnect the sway bars (as he calls them) when off road. It means the anti-roll bars could be a bit stiffer for on-road driving and then disconnected when off-road so their extra stiffness isn't a problem.
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Joined: 26 Feb 2008 Posts: 169 Location: High Peak
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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 0:24 Post subject: |
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The disconnect idea is very good, but what I found doing that is finding a place to secure the sway bars too. Thats why I went the extended link route, a good compromise and you don't have to get your hands diry. |
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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 1:03 Post subject: |
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Yeah, looked at the link. Interesting, but wondered how it would fare in an MOT. Once disconnected you do need to secure the anti roll bar too. These are not built like Jeeps. Have considered quick disconnects, not sure they will work. Very happy so far with the link modifications. Even if mods think that that this belongs here on Readers Drives. Maybe I should tint my windows.
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